February 4, 2025

1 thought on “Convergence Science Transforming Biomedicine, MIT Report says

  1. This just in from a Texas scientist who prefers to remain anonymous:”
    I think it’s a great idea. However, for the life of me, I can’t see how it differs in its practice from the inter-disciplinary collaborations that I have observed and participated in for my whole career. For example, for almost 15 years I have been collaborating with a physicist to study the protein that I am interested in. It’s not just me. Biochemists all think it’s very sexy when one of them gets together with a physicist and they come up with something new. This has been the case ever since I started my career. In my parallel area of cell biology, for example, there are all kinds of neat new microscopy techniques that are doing previously unheard-of things. I think that was mentioned in the Convergence Report.

    It seems to me, however that there are three arenas where the Convergence model should be developed.

    First, there should be a non-random way for people of different disciplines to get together, as opposed to “I was sitting on an airplane next to this physicist and he told me about his new microscope”. Harvard’s blending of the departments is a good way of doing it. That way, we can be assured that Scientist A in discipline A will have plenty of regular exposure to Scientist B in discipline B. They would get to hear each other’s seminars and progress reports, socialize together, etc., and ideas for collaboration will arise naturally.

    Second, it would be nice to encourage the scientist in discipline A to take a course in discipline B and vice versa. That way, the scientist in discipline A would actually have a better inkling of what discipline B is all about and see how it could apply to discipline A. In other words, there would be more common ground between the two scientists. The courses should not be fabulous tours de force but rather simple introductions to given fields, guided by the participants’ interests. We need to keep in mind that scientists are always busy and adding a really tough course, normally given to majors in that discipline, may be too much.

    Third, there needs to be a better way to review proposals in the Convergence area. I sit on study sections. Often, there may not be anybody who really understands some physics technique or approach so they either say, “OK, this sounds good”, or else they may be put off by it. A Convergence grant proposal would be put together by the people from the different disciplines. It should perhaps be reviewed the same way. In other words, set up a Convergence study section, have all Convergence grants reviewed by at least three people, instead of the current two (plus a reader). In other words, if the proposal is about breast cancer and it involves, say cell biology and physics, instead of being reviewed by two breast cancer experts with a lot of knowledge of cell biology and very little knowledge of physics, it should perhaps be reviewed by two breast cancer experts, both of whom have taken the relevant physics courses, and one physicist who has taken a cell biology course. One additional advantage of this is that people who are actually in a field can better evaluate the productivity of scientists in that field. For instance, it is a fact that chemists publish more frequently than biochemists. That’s not because they are better scientists, but because it is not difficult to get a chemical to study (you can order it from a company). However, purification of a protein for biochemical studies can take a very long time. When we evaluate the productivity of an applicant, we have informal metrics, so we can say: “This woman has published lots of papers in her area, and in very good journals”. I feel confident about making such a judgment for a biochemist, but not really for a physicist. I imagine the converse would be true as well. Yes, you can get impact factors, but they are often a poor indication of the worth of a scientist, in my opinion. You really get a better idea about that from word of mouth, but that would not be accessible to someone in a different discipline.”

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